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Restoration Advisory Board

Radford Army Ammunition Plant (RFAAP)
Restoration Advisory Board (RAB)
December 16, 2004

Meeting Minutes




Jim McKenna RFAAP/RAB Co-Chair
Joe Parrish RAB Co-Chair
David Allbee Citizen



Jerry Redder RFAAP/AAPC
Pete Huber Pulaski County Administrator/County of Pulaski
Rob Thomson USEPA - Region 3
Tony R. Perry USACE - CDN
Stephen Wood USACE - Baltimore
John Tesner USACE - Baltimore
Anthony Skinner CDR RFAAP
Tina Henderson URS
James Spencer URS
Jeff Parks Shaw E & I

Agenda Item #1: Introductory Remarks, Jim McKenna

Mr. Jim McKenna began the meeting at 7:03 p.m.

Agenda Item #2: New Personnel, Jim McKenna

Mr. Jim McKenna informed the attendees that a new project manager from the Baltimore District, Stephen Wood, has been assigned to RFAAP. The outgoing Baltimore District project manager, John Tesner, whom has been working with RFAAP since 1999, has been assigned a new position at the Baltimore District D.C. Programs Office.

In addition, the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality Project Manager for RFAAP has also been changed from Mark Leeper to Jim Cutler.

Agenda Item #3: Installation Program Status/Question and Answer/Community Input

Mr. McKenna indicated the EPA and VADEQ can review approximately 10 to 12 documents a year from RFAAP and submittals have been equivalent to that submittal rate for the Installation.

Mr. McKenna discussed soil source removal slated for award in early 2005 for Building 4343. The remedy (soil excavation and offsite disposal) was selected to obtain clean closure for the site. The site represents the first clean-closure activities to be implemented at RFAAP. RFAAP will hold an informational meeting prior to the commencement of the soil removal at the site. The removal will likely occur in late FY 2005 with a Baltimore Corps representative on-site to oversee the removal action. Mr. McKenna stated that any RAB member is welcome to visit the site during the removal activities with a day’s notice for scheduling. Copies of site reports are on file at the RFAAP information repository (Montgomery-Floyd Regional Library, Christiansburg, VA).

Mr. McKenna indicated that a removal action at SWMU 39 would follow Building 4343. The project is a dig and haul type project involving minimal quantities of material; therefore, it is economical to remove the source material. The Corrective Measures Study (CMS) has been revised in response to EPA comments and resubmitted to the EPA for approval. The programmed date for the action has not been established, but is likely to be discussed at the workshop in April 2005.

Mr. McKenna informed the attendees that the decision document for SWMU 58 (Rubble Pile) was signed by the EPA. The risk assessments recommended no further action (NFA) for the site. The SWMU 58 Decision Document will be posted on the IRP website ( and will be on file at the RFAAP information repository (Montgomery-Floyd Regional Library, Christiansburg, VA). Mr. McKenna indicated that four additional NFA decision documents are ready for submittal to the EPA including SWMUs 8, 36, 75, and 76.

Mr. McKenna stated that the 2005 IAP is on the IRP website. The 2005 IAP does not have any cost to complete information per Army direction as this is procurement sensitive.

Mr. Pete Huber asked where the waste from the removal actions would be taken if it were characterized as hazardous. Mr. McKenna stated that if the material were characterized as hazardous it would be taken to a permitted hazardous waste facility most likely in Michigan.

Mr. McKenna stated that any additional questions or comments after the meeting could be sent to him and addressed in the next meeting.

Mr. Peter Huber stated that he appreciates the ongoing cleaning-up efforts the Installation is making. He stated Brownfield sites are out of productive use for the community and he again appreciates the openness and clean-up efforts exhibited at RFAAP.

Mr. McKenna stated that when looking at the alternatives for site clean up, they are evaluated for their potential in getting the site back in a condition for reuse. The Installation does not like to leave waste in place when the alternative, such as source removal like at Building 4343 and SWMU 39, are able to show it is more cost effective long term to remove the soil than leave the waste in place. This allows the property to be reused. Mr. McKenna stated that some unpermitted landfills will remain in place due to cost constraints, but the Installation will try to get clean closure on the sites it can. He stated to keep in mind that about 100 acres out of the several thousand acres of the Installation are addressed by the IRP. The remaining area is addressed by other programs.

Mr. David Allbee stated that members of the community think there is all kinds of dirty stuff at the Installation, but he tells them that there is not that much and the Installation is cleaning it up.

Mr. McKenna stated that the New River Community Center would likely be used for the public information meeting regarding Building 4343. Even though such a meeting is not required it would help the community know what is going on at the Installation.

Mr. Jerry Redder stated separate from the RAB that a public hearing will be held in the first half of 2005 for the open burning ground permit for the Installation. Legal notices will be provided in the paper. He stated that burning had occurred at the site since 1941 and the facility had submitted the required permit information in 1988, but have been operating on interim permit status. He stated the permit should be issued approximately in July 2005.

Mr. McKenna stated that the Installation is conducting some IRP investigations at the burning grounds, but that effort is limited to areas outside the operational areas.

Mr. McKenna stated that the remainder of the facility-wide groundwater study is programmed for procurement this year.

Mr. McKenna mentioned SWMU 54 where ongoing site investigations involve the assessment of groundwater at the site level. Mr. McKenna stated that an extensive soil removal action was completed in 1999 and that site investigations had detected perchlorate in groundwater. Additional wells had been installed that week at the site and the groundwater will be further assessed. There are currently no methods to assess perchlorate in soil. The levels of perchlorate detected are below what the Army would consider action levels. Also the Installation and the Army are reluctant to pump and treat the groundwater at any site as it is generally not effective. Data from the new wells will be collected over time to assess the effects of river staging on the wells. The RAB was referred to Work Plan Addendum 13 in the RFAAP information repository for additional site information.

Closing Remarks

The site visit was concluded at 8:03 p.m. Mr. McKenna stated the next RAB meeting is scheduled for March 17, 2005.

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